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Title: Just how dumb does Obama think we are? Watch and see
Post by: marahal on August 05, 2009, 04:59:02 AM
Just how dumb does Obama think we are?
Obama has a different answer to questions that change based on too whom he is speaking with. Watch these video’s and see for yourself. They are not fake the words are real and originated from Obamas web site.

This is only one of the untruths that we are being told about the health care bill.
Will you can keep you insurance that is provided by your employer? Oh yes your employers will still pay for a plan but it will be automatically changed to the government plan in no more than 5 years and it will be the law, your employer will have no choice!
What is the truth? Read the pages in the bill for yourself the page numbers will be provided by Betsy McCaughey bellow.

The first video is Linda Douglas. In the video she implies the people are at it again and leads you to think it’s a conspiracy by radicals. However in the second video Obama himself negates Ms Douglas’s statement. Watch as in the second video Obama himself will point out the true conspiracy and it’s coming from the white house.
Maybe we are some of those people who pick and choose, maybe not, watch these video’s and you tell me, reply to this post. Will you believe your lying eye’s and ears or the excuse Obama will give you tomorrow and the next day, or maybe something else Linda Douglas will tell you. There is a problem with lies. Once you tell a lie to keep your integrity in tact you must continue to lie and as they build up upon each other, the structure of the house of cards created eventually catches up and as in this case the house of cards crumbles down.

In the first clip Obama’s Communications director for the office of health care reform, Linda Douglas says

“And one of my jobs is to keep track of all the disinformation that’s out there about health insurance reform   and there are a lot of very  Deceiving headlines out there. Write now Such as this one, take a look at this one.
This one says uncovered video Video: Obama Explains how his health care plan will eliminate private insurance. Well nothing can be father from the truth You know the people who always try to scare the people when ever you try to bring them health insurance reform are at it again ant they are taking sentences and phrases out of content
And cobbling them together to leave a very false impression the truth is the president has been talking to the American people a lot about health insurance reform and what is at stake for them so what happens is that  because e he talks to the American people so much there are people with a computer and a lot of free time and they take a phase here and there they simply cherry pick and put it together and make it sound like he’s saying something he really did not really  say.  Now For example Here’s a clip that they probably wont show you”.

 In this video Obama gives a speech to AARP  
  “ Here’s a guarantee that I’v made, If you have insurance that you like than you will be able to keep that insurance.  Or if you got a Dr. you like you will be able to keep your Dr. Nobody is trying to change what works in the system, we are trying to change what does not work in the system”  

Linda Douglas:
“And here’s another one”

“The public plan is I think a important tool; to discipline insurance companies what we’ve said is under our proposal  lets have a system the same way  that federal employees do same ways the members of congress do were we call it an exchange and you can call it a market place were essentially you got a whole bunch of different plans If you like your plan and you like your Dr. you wont have to do a thing you can keep your plan you can keep your Dr. If your employer’s providing good health insurance terrific were not going to mess with it”

In the second clip Obama states he envisions it will take maybe a decade or 15 years or 20 years out. Well I read the health care bill and it points out no more than in 5 years in any and all cases your employee coverage will change in 5 years and it will be the law , that’s write it will be mandatory so if you are happy with the coverage you have now enjoy it.
At least while you can because it will be against the law to get a better plan than the public one you will automatically be transferred to after 5 years.

Don’t believe me just your lying eye’s bellow you will find a few paragraphs by Betsy McCaughey that explains the health care bill up for debate write now and will point out pages so you can read the truth and see what Obama actually has in his play book.
Now you may check the validity of the statement. Here is a link to the government web site and view the bill so you can go to the pages mentioned and read it for yourself.
The House Bill:
The Senate Bill:
Then will you believe your lying eyes or Obamas Rhetoric. It’s up to you. Let it go or contact your elected official, You can do the latter by going to our home page and in the left hand column, click on the contact your Representative and Senator. Then you will find a contact link that will enable you to send an email to your prospective politician. Tell him or her how you feel about this health care bill and how you intend to vote the next time he or she is up for re-election

The following was written by Betsy McCaughey and made available through
Defend Your Health Care
Obama says: "But keep in mind - I mean this is something that I can't emphasize enough - you don't have to participate.  If you are happy with the health care that you've got, then keep it."
THE TRUTH:  The health bills now before Congress would force you to switch to a managed-care plan with limits on your access to specialists and tests.
Two main bills are being rushed through Congress with the goal of combining them into a finished product by August. Under either, a new government bureaucracy will select health plans that it considers in your best interest, and you will have to enroll in one of these "qualified plans." If you now get your plan through work, your employer has a five-year "grace period" to switch you into a qualified plan. If you buy your own insurance, you'll have less time.
And as soon as anything changes in your contract - such as a change in co pays or deductibles, which many insurers change every year - you'll have to move into a qualified plan instead (House bill, p. 16-17).
When you file your taxes, if you can't prove to the IRS that you are in a qualified plan, you'll be fined thousands of dollars - as much as the average cost of a health plan for your family size - and then automatically enrolled in a randomly selected plan (House bill, p. 167-168).
It's one thing to require that people getting government assistance tolerate managed care, but the legislation limits you to a managed-care plan even if you and your employer are footing the bill (Senate bill, p. 57-58). The goal is to reduce every one's consumption of health care and to ensure that people have the same health-care experience, regardless of ability to pay.